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So it would be better then to focus on say specific golf products (like clubs,putters shoes) or focus on like a vendor that can cut down strokes, or even an vendor that offers an affiliate program of just learning how to play golf. Just focusing on one of those , its that what you are saying?
Well in your research you would see the different needs that arise, keeping in mind that you can always cross promote related stuff. Eg. If you're focusing on 'cutting down strokes' then you can always promote golf clubs to do that, digital information products on how to do that, tangible video products etc. I'm not too much into golfing so I can't really say unless I did some research.

You can also see what niche the Clickbank vendors are promoting to and go with that niche. You won't have to promote their product as the only offer but they've already done the research and groundwork so you can't really lose.

I just jumped on Yahoo Answers and did a search for golf. It seems that a lot of people are asking questions about the best type of golf clubs. You could promote golf clubs for example and get traffic by answering the type of questions they ask. In your keyword research you can get good conversion rates by targeting the exact name of the golf clubs. This is just an example. You also need to research your competition as well. I'll put up something about this later.

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Good places to keep your eye on for general and keyword reseach:

Yahoo Answers Golf

Wealthy Affiliate also has a NicheQ on the Golf industry. All the research is done for you, they have different subniches you can target, prebuilt websites, templates, private discussion and support forum and affiliate program suggestions.

This would be perfect for you.
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Ok great!!..! Thanks for the tips on my niche. I plan to still do some research though. I've kinda browsed through some keywords today and found some more great useful information using googles keyword tool. I think what Im gonna mainly focus is gonna be the selling of golf clubs, because you are right that was the most popular questions being asked on yahoo answers. I figured I could also throw in some clickbank vendors in there about improving there swing for better accuracy. I plan to spend the next 2-3 days doing strictly more research and also finding some really good keywords to go off of.

In general what would you say a good amount of keywords to use would be? Ive heard of people using like hundreds for there sites. Do I really need that many or more along the lines of specific keywords and phrases specifically applying to my subniche?
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Hey there sorry to be a pain , but I just found something I was kinda curious on. I was searching ebay and noticed they have like turnkey websites that already premade and set up with adsense and affiliate links and all that stuff integrated into the site. Are these any good ? I only ask because Im completely dumb founded when it comes to building websites . I did ok with blogger but thats cause its so easy. But I found a really good looking site for the golf nich in selling clubs and I was just wondering if these were any good ?
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I've replied to your private message. No pain at all.

You don't have to be an expert web designer to put up something good. If you use Wordpress you can do something like this. Look at how simple that is but I bet it works.
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DAY# 3 CONTINUE RESEARCH IN MY

So i've continued to do more research in finding a subniche to promote. I have searched about 40-50 different golf related questions in yahoo answers, and I have searched about 3 different forums in the golf tips related sections.

I made a little talley stating how many questions or problems people were have in the same subniche related questions.

I found that there were over 35 different questions related to purchasing golf clubs and which golf clubs to use. I also found about 15 different questions regarding helping people with there golf swing, and the other most popular one was learning how to play golf in general which there were about 20 related to that.

I then procceeded to clickbank to see what the vendors were offering regarding golf. Most of them I found were helping with peoples swing and cutting down strokes. So I've decided that I will be choosing the subniche of helping people with there swing to start off with. I can then later progress and work off another popular one such as selling golf clubs and then later go to helping people learn to play golf. My next step I will be doing is going to be researching keywords for my subniche. Stay tuned for the next update in my progress..
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Good choice. I think you're going to do very well with this.

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Hey Jay, quick question ..

I was doing my keyword research today and was also looking at some competitors who were marketing the same subniche. I found some that were promoting a bunch of different vendors and then some that were just promoting one individual vendor. Since im just starting up do you think I should just promote one vendor with a review page or landing page in adwords or do you think it would be better to set up a whole site with multiple vendors that offer helping people with there golf swing?

I actually have a friend who is a web designer who is gonna make a really professional looking website for me. So im not sure if I should stick to something more basic with just one clickbank product or market multiple ones off of clickbank.

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I was doing my keyword research today and was also looking at some competitors who were marketing the same subniche. I found some that were promoting a bunch of different vendors and then some that were just promoting one individual vendor. Since im just starting up do you think I should just promote one vendor with a review page or landing page in adwords or do you think it would be better to set up a whole site with multiple vendors that offer helping people with there golf swing?

I actually have a friend who is a web designer who is gonna make a really professional looking website for me. So im not sure if I should stick to something more basic with just one clickbank product or market multiple ones off of clickbank.

Thanks in advance again for your help .

Review sites are great. One way you could go is to pick 3 to 5 different products and review them on your site, ranking one of the #1. This actually carries up conversion rates. You could then dedicate a page for each individually product for a review.

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Awesome !! Thats exactly what I was hoping you would say, because I think the review sites are great for making conversions from what I have seen and heard.

Alright im gonna continue my research for some good keywords and then ill put another progress post up. I've started doing some research but mainly looking at my competitors and seeing what keywords they were using. My plan is to pick about 10-15 low cost keywords that don't have much competition .
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DAY# 5 KEYWORD RESEARCH


Alright, I did my keyword research for about 5-6 hours yesterday looking at different long tail keywords, keyword phrases in adwords, yahoo answers and forums. I also did research on competitors who were also promoting the same subniche of helping people with there golf swing.

I came up with about 20 keywords that I will be using in a campaign on adwords and with article marketing as well. The keywords I will be using are for directly targeted people that are looking to better there golf swing and lower strokes off there score.

I am going to be making a review site and will be basing it off of those keywords that are all related to helping people with there golf swing, and lowering there handicap. Im gonna be sure in each review content that I have on my site focuses specifically on the keywords I came up with to be sure I get good rankings in google for those keywords. A couple keywords i will be using are lower your golf handicap,how to improve my golf swing, the simple golf swing review, golf swing e-book, golf swing e-book reviews, how to stop slicing and correct golf swing just to name a few.

All of these keywords that I decided to go with have average to low competition and are all under a dollar to get 1-3 position rankings in google.

So now it comes to the hard part that will take me some time, building the site. I will make another post once I have the site created . Then hopefully it will be finally time to make some money and make these long 6 months of trying to figure this all out worth while.
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Alright, I did my keyword research for about 5-6 hours yesterday looking at different long tail keywords, keyword phrases in adwords, yahoo answers and forums. I also did research on competitors who were also promoting the same subniche of helping people with there golf swing.

I came up with about 20 keywords that I will be using in a campaign on adwords and with article marketing as well. The keywords I will be using are for directly targeted people that are looking to better there golf swing and lower strokes off there score.

I am going to be making a review site and will be basing it off of those keywords that are all related to helping people with there golf swing, and lowering there handicap. Im gonna be sure in each review content that I have on my site focuses specifically on the keywords I came up with to be sure I get good rankings in google for those keywords. A couple keywords i will be using are lower your golf handicap,how to improve my golf swing, the simple golf swing review, golf swing e-book, golf swing e-book reviews, how to stop slicing and correct golf swing just to name a few.

All of these keywords that I decided to go with have average to low competition and are all under a dollar to get 1-3 position rankings in google.

So now it comes to the hard part that will take me some time, building the site. I will make another post once I have the site created . Then hopefully it will be finally time to make some money and make these long 6 months of trying to figure this all out worth while.
Dude, you are freakin amazing! This is good stuff.

Are you sure you didn't know this before, because I think you're hiding something from me. Just kidding.

Keep going.

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PS. Don't make the website part hard. If your friend is going to design it for you then make sure to write the content ahead of time so you can just fill it in. Also, you can check out Weebly.
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LOL thanks !! But no im not hiding anything. I've just spent so much time learning everything about affiliate marketing and getting traffic and seo and all that kind of stuff, I basically just confused myself and didn't know how to implement everything until now, thanks to your help.

My plan is to start writing the content for my site this weekend and then she will hopefully set it all up for me next week or so. I figure while I wait for her to design it all for me , I can write some articles and come up with a good domain name. I also probably should spend a little more time learning more about google adwords to make sure I don't just waste my money there. I know the basics but haven't really gotten to in depth with it. Ill keep ya posted though and add new posts with my progress..

Talk to ya later. Have a good 4th !!
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Hi, just chiming in to say that you're on the right track. Just follow kpfingaz's lead. He's the real thing.

oh, and hi kpfingaz, fancy seeing you here.
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Hi, just chiming in to say that you're on the right track. Just follow kpfingaz's lead. He's the real thing.

oh, and hi kpfingaz, fancy seeing you here.
Oh hey, wassup Zul, been a while since I seen you around.

Thanks for poppin ya head in on the thread.

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Hey there just wanted to keep everyone posted who is following or reading this thread.. I finally started writing the content for my website. I've got the welcome page written and I also wrote one review so far on the The Simple Golf Swing clickbank vendor. (who has the highest grav) Here it is, tell me what you think and if Im writing the right stuff or if I need to optimize it a little better. I plan to rank it with the stars and also put some pictures up along with it ... I will do this with all 4 of the vendors I will be promoting, I also will be putting up articles within my website to add a little extra to it.




The Simple Golf Swing E-book


What To Expect

Are you tired of searching the internet looking for the easy way out on how to improve your golf swing? Looking for something that can rapidly increase your golf skills. Well the Simple Golf Swing written by David Nevogt is what you have been searching for. I have already put in numerous hours doing all the work for you, to make sure you get your moneys worth. Look at it this way, you may have found this site because you are confused and not knowing what is really gonna work and what is just a scam. The simple golf swing e-book is your way out. It will help almost any golfer break 80. It's the real deal and you definitely get what you pay for, which is a more improved consistant golf game. Why spend $80 plus for lessons when you can learn everything for almost half that price?

What it Teaches

Ill start by saying you won't turn top pro once you read this the e-book, but you will dramatically improve your golf swing mechanics, and play better golf! It will take you pretty much by the hand and show you exactly how to develop a better swing that will have you consistently playing better. It's basically like having your own golf swing trainer. Except without the expensive cost! You will hit with greater distance, hit the ball more accurately and further then you have ever hit before and you'll land on the green more and get closer to the pin without luck, all with skill ! Sound good ? Well there's more to it as well. The book is packed full ! Which means within 2 weeks or less your game is gonna be on all the time. You will have your friends wondering how and why. No more people laughing at you out there! All you will be hearing is the smooth straight accurate slice between you and the hole.

The guarantee

If all there was with this system was just a marking or picture that said gaurantee it would make you a little suspiscous right ? Well this system has had more then 19,000 golfers in 36 countries that swear this system has helped increase golf drive,correct golf swing and even lower your golf handicap. Don't take my word for it, I've actually got testimonials from actual people who have tried out the Simple Golf Swing e-book . Best of all if you are not satisfied there is a 60 money back refund. So what have you got to lose? Absolutely nothing at all except saving a couple hundred dollars from lessons. You can download it now instantly and soak in all the information in one day! Before you know it you will be out there showing all your friends up!
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Dude, you are freakin amazing! This is good stuff.

Are you sure you didn't know this before, because I think you're hiding something from me. Just kidding.

Keep going.

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PS. Don't make the website part hard. If your friend is going to design it for you then make sure to write the content ahead of time so you can just fill it in. Also, you can check out Weebly.
Hey just a quick question , I was trying to find a good domain name with specific keywords related to helping people with there golf swing and I was just curious if it mattered at all whether it was a .com or .net or .biz ? I wasn't sure if I needed to stick to one particular one or not ?
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Whenever possible, try to get a .com. It's been said that all the good .coms are taken but if you get a bit creative with it, you will almost always find a good .com domain name.

The reason you want to get a .com is because most people especially those that aren't too savvy with the internet will most likely put .com even if they remember the rest of the domain name.

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Hey there just wanted to keep everyone posted who is following or reading this thread.. I finally started writing the content for my website. I've got the welcome page written and I also wrote one review so far on the The Simple Golf Swing clickbank vendor. (who has the highest grav) Here it is, tell me what you think and if Im writing the right stuff or if I need to optimize it a little better. I plan to rank it with the stars and also put some pictures up along with it ... I will do this with all 4 of the vendors I will be promoting, I also will be putting up articles within my website to add a little extra to it.




The Simple Golf Swing E-book


What To Expect

Are you tired of searching the internet looking for the easy way out on how to improve your golf swing? Looking for something that can rapidly increase your golf skills. Well the Simple Golf Swing written by David Nevogt is what you have been searching for. I have already put in numerous hours doing all the work for you, to make sure you get your moneys worth. Look at it this way, you may have found this site because you are confused and not knowing what is really gonna work and what is just a scam. The simple golf swing e-book is your way out. It will help almost any golfer break 80. It's the real deal and you definitely get what you pay for, which is a more improved consistant golf game. Why spend $80 plus for lessons when you can learn everything for almost half that price?

What it Teaches

Ill start by saying you won't turn top pro once you read this the e-book, but you will dramatically improve your golf swing mechanics, and play better golf! It will take you pretty much by the hand and show you exactly how to develop a better swing that will have you consistently playing better. It's basically like having your own golf swing trainer. Except without the expensive cost! You will hit with greater distance, hit the ball more accurately and further then you have ever hit before and you'll land on the green more and get closer to the pin without luck, all with skill ! Sound good ? Well there's more to it as well. The book is packed full ! Which means within 2 weeks or less your game is gonna be on all the time. You will have your friends wondering how and why. No more people laughing at you out there! All you will be hearing is the smooth straight accurate slice between you and the hole.

The guarantee

If all there was with this system was just a marking or picture that said gaurantee it would make you a little suspiscous right ? Well this system has had more then 19,000 golfers in 36 countries that swear this system has helped increase golf drive,correct golf swing and even lower your golf handicap. Don't take my word for it, I've actually got testimonials from actual people who have tried out the Simple Golf Swing e-book . Best of all if you are not satisfied there is a 60 money back refund. So what have you got to lose? Absolutely nothing at all except saving a couple hundred dollars from lessons. You can download it now instantly and soak in all the information in one day! Before you know it you will be out there showing all your friends up!
There's some good points about this review but I think you need to realize that people are skeptical for a reason. They do not want to get sold to. Now if you were to talk to them as a friend rather than a salesman, then it doesn't matter that the vendor is selling to them. They want to be put at ease.

This is why affiliate marketing is so important. In most cases a presell will convert a skeptical browser into a paying customer. A good presell gets the customer to drop his guard and if you're presenting value then its a win win situation for all involved.

What I'm really trying to say is, you're review while it does have its good points (19000 golfers in 36 countries), is a bit on the selling side, rather than preselling. Therefore, it's a situation where the potential customer is being oversold to. He's getting a sales message from the affiliate and then another one from the vendor. This won't convert as well as if you were to do the following.

How do you presell something?

What does the potential buyer want? He wants a review on this ebook.

If he's searching for a review of the product by name, then chances are he has already found the vendor. He just wants to know if anyone else thinks its a good buy.

Ever went to a movie and you're friend asks you "hey man how as that movie? Is it any good?"

What do you tell them? More than likely you don't really care whether or not they decide to see it. You're going to tell them as it is how YOU feel about the movie. After all you're not getting paid to tell people its good right?

Well this is why you should always recommend good products. So you can tell people that its good with a clear conscience. This will also help you write better reviews.

The main points of writing a review presell:

State opinions, not facts. How do you feel about the product? Do you think it can help the consumer? NOT how many pages in the ebook and who the writer is. Of course, you can mention these things but focus mainly on the opinions. This is what the consumer is seeking.

Don't be one sided. Nothing is perfect. State also what you didn't like about the product. You'll get more people to feel at ease and therefore more conversions.

Know your product. I realize you cant possibly buy ever ebook out there but if its possible buy the one that you rank #1. See it as a business expense. You'll be able to write more compelling and higher converting reviews and you'll be able to make back your money easily with a few sales. If its a Clickbank product buy it through your own link to get a discount.

If its not possible to buy the product a simple way to get to know the product is to do a google search for reviews on the product. One of the best places to look for reviews are forums. You will usually find unbiased reviews from forum communities that have reviewed the products you're writing about.

Once again, I would say that you're doing a great job and following the process. Make some adjustments to your review, make it more user friendly and you'll definitely be onto something.

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Ok I get what your saying about the review . I didn't do much research into the product that I was promoting, so that's probably why it came out kinda like a sales page. But I get it now, ill do some more looking into the actual products ill be promoting and write a review as if I was telling a friend how great the e-book is rather then making it sound like im just a sales rep trying to get someone to buy.

As another note, my friend is charging way to much to build my site so I think im just gonna build it through weebly. I kinda looked around there the other day and it seems like they are really helpful at making a site quite easy, so ill be going that route once I get all my reviews written.

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