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Old 07-05-2008, 03:42 PM
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Lightbulb DOORWAY PAGES vs. PARKING PAGES

Are "door way" pages and also "parking templates" both penalized equally by search engines ?

I read that doorway pages are viewed as Black Hat SEO but are "Parking Templates" any different ?

After all, both, doorway pages and parking pages are intended solely for the purpose of funneling traffic,

So why would search engines treat "Parking Templates" any differently then "Doorway Pages" ?

And - if "Parking Templates" aren't penalized by Search Engines - Why wouldnt I just create doorway pages that look and function like "Parking Pages" ?

My Bodis "Parking Templates" get very good traffic thru organic traffic

So at the end of the day - what prevents me from creating my own "Traffic Templates" (Doorway Pages) with the intent to drive traffic and generate leads ?

Can anybody give me their opinions ?
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Old 07-05-2008, 04:12 PM
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Well, I think parking pages are treated basically the same by search engines when it comes to organic search ranking.

Search engines look for sites with more than 1 page and the more pages the better generally and if your pages grows on a daily basis, then it's even better because search engines will index it frequently and treats your content as fresher.

Search engines do not 'penalize' door way pages or parking pages but merely treat them as 'not important at all'.. so, if there's a very long tailed search and there are not many results, then your page may turn up..

Also, parking pages are generally used for parking domains. And the traffic are usually from 'key in' domain name traffic. I don't think you would get a lot of organic traffic.

If you're looking for organic traffic, it's best to always build a content site that you updates frequently with fresh, good, quality content.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:07 PM
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>>Search engines do not 'penalize' door way pages or parking pages but merely treat them as 'not important at all'.. <<


I like this comment because alot of this "talk" on the Intenet says otherwise. I.E: You will be penalized

I wanna believe what your saying , because it just "seems right" that dooway or "parking templates" aren't the evil that the "talk" makes it out to be

Can anybody else vouch?

Opinions?

Seriously interested.

Lots of gray smoke out there

Hard to discern the "truth"
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:48 AM
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Over the last 10 years of doing business online, I know how the search engines behave and have seen them evolve. If you go to a predominantly SEO related forum, everything is blown out of proportion.

But then what I am basically saying is sort of like being penalized anyways. But they don't go out to penalize you unless you're 'spamming' the search engines, such as purposely setting up dozens of doorway pages just to get your ONE main website higher in the rankings.

But if you have a ONE page domain, then your site is so low in the ranks (without being penalized) that you'll likely not get very good traffic at all.... The best form of SEO is to work on ONE or TWO main sites and then spend time building up your content. Over time, search engines will recognize your site as important and then give you lots of traffic. This is the surest way to do it.. the rest is really quite unimportant.

Of course the simplest SEO methods works best such as making sure you name your TITLE well.. Remember, you name your title for HUMANS, not search engines.
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Old 07-06-2008, 08:06 AM
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So if I have 1000 highly targeted keyword rich domains that are receiving approximately 60 users each domain every month

I want to convert these users into "leads" by giving them a short form to complete

Is it better to associate these pages with my "real" website or might I end up having my "real" site penalized ?
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So if I have 1000 highly targeted keyword rich domains that are receiving approximately 60 users each domain every month

I want to convert these users into "leads" by giving them a short form to complete

Is it better to associate these pages with my "real" website or might I end up having my "real" site penalized ?
I wouldn't link to my 'real' website as you put it because that would be quite obvious link spam... Google will definitely penalize your 'real site' or downgrade it...

If you want to link to your real site, use the 'no follow' tag.

But if you're getting traffic to your domains, then put the form on your domains itself or put relevant products on there or something to monetize your traffic. Managing 1000 domains is tough at best.. you may be better off starting ONE site such as:

www.whatever.com

then whatever keywords you want or products you want to target, use something like this

www.whatever.com/target1/

that way, you have internal linking on your own site.. no linking outside. Plus, it's got to be easier to manage.
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:17 PM
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The domains receive type in traffic so I am wanting to use the traffic generated from each domain. As such, using one domain www.whatever.com/target1/ ; www.whatever.com/target2/ wouldnt allow me to get the type in traffic that each domain receives.

As you suggested, I won't have these landing pages associated with my real site so that I am not penalized.

Do you know whether branding them with my main site would penalize my main site. I don't see how google would really look at the pages and see our main logo attached. That would take a real person.

What do you think ?
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Well, I suppose that if you brand it with your main site, it should be fine as long as you don't link to it without the 'no follow' tag. If you're only interested in the type in traffic, i suggest that you just redirect to your own site...

Just make sure you're not trying to fool the search engines. I have seen very smart people try to fool the search engines and get their site delisted or even banned permanently.

One page sites whether gateway pages or domain parking pages are ranked the lowest in search engines, next to zero ranking in importance anyways..
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:26 PM
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Well, I suppose that if you brand it with your main site, it should be fine as long as you don't link to it without the 'no follow' tag. If you're only interested in the type in traffic, i suggest that you just redirect to your own site...

Just make sure you're not trying to fool the search engines. I have seen very smart people try to fool the search engines and get their site delisted or even banned permanently.

One page sites whether gateway pages or domain parking pages are ranked the lowest in search engines, next to zero ranking in importance anyways..
I would NEVER even take the chance of fooling the engines. Not worth it to me to even take the chance.

I could do the 301 redirect but then I would be stuck with the metatags on my main site

I have the pages parked right now and I am getting traffic via organic search engine and also some type-in traffic. I am not certain what % of the organic search engine searches are spiders. I would like to create individual pages for each domain so it gets some of this organic traffic

Does that make sense?
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:31 AM
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It does make sense.. anyways, as long as you don't try to link to your main site from all these domains, you'll be fine... do whatever you want with the sites, like put up a form or put up affiliate links or products, etc.
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:30 AM
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